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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 14, 2010 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

This show has been much discussed on this forum and elsewhere. Yes, it exists only on a rather rough sounding audience, but the fact that it remains so popular is a testament to just how powerful this show really is. A true primal masterpiece.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd68-06-14.aud.cotsman.16532.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jun 14, 2010 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

...and a testament to how disgusting it is that so much from this era does not exist, and how fortunate we are to have what we do have .

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 14, 2010 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

Yeah, at least we've got more than we once did. Pre-1970 tapes were pretty darn rare in my neck of the woods when I started collecting in the early 80s.

Will or Cliff or LiA or one of those folks with a better grasp of details than I've got pointed out to me that the Caution from this show was on the bonus disc of the Fillmore 1969 box set, so I suppose it's possible we'll get an upgrade to this show someday...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jun 14, 2010 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

this audience is a shadow of the best Caution I've ever heard...hmmm...how should i put this,

are there any decent torrent sites that cover Bonus Disks that are no longer offered commercially? It seems ethical as far as my deadheadedness goes...only for my jammin pleasure.
That Caution kicks ass!!

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jun 15, 2010 2:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

Yeah, it's out there, but I'm not going to post any links or anything in here...it looks like you are going to be taken care of though.

From what I understand, there isn't much more on that reel than the Caution. I don't think it's the whole show or anything. I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered reading that somewhere, maybe a Lemiuex interview or something.

But man, when that segment came out, that was the biggest surprise of all time. I've never been so happy as when my FW 1969 set finally came in the mail and I saw that bonus disc. I really can't stomach the AUD of that show. Esp The Eleven part. The Caution isn't that bad, but the first half of that tape is just godawful to me. And I'm willing to strain my ears more than most, I generally don't complain much about older auds. But I'd say this one is just about almost up there with 9/15/67 (that might be a little unfair, 9/15 is completely unlistenable rubbish).

Anyway, this Caution is just absolutely phenomenal, SBD or AUD. Absolute primal dead that everyone needs to have. I'm really really glad I have it in SBD quality though, that's for sure.

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Poster: Pork Soda Date: Jun 14, 2010 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

Here's a clue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3jak1wfO40

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 14, 2010 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

I'll burn you a copy and send it to you Earl. Just send me your mailing address on facebook!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 14, 2010 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

my notes indicate that the Caution from the FW box set bonus disk [thank you Cliff Hucker!] is from 6/8/69... a monster version!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 14, 2010 3:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

Could be...I get confused easily ;) Neither copy of 6/8/69 on the Archive contains a "Caution" however.

This post was modified by skuzzlebutt on 2010-06-14 22:35:33

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jun 14, 2010 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

no, looks like i'm the one who is confused, lol ... damn, it does happen on occasion

http://www.deaddisc.com/disc/Fillmore_West_1969_Bonus_Disc.htm

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 14, 2010 2:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH: A True Psychedelic Masterpiece

That's a good question!

Jim Powell has stated:

"This is primal Dead, one of the best sets in circulation from any year. The "space" or "feedback" begins from a dead start - there is a second of silence beforehand. The 2:23 Saint Stephen jam following "what would be the answer to the answer man" is of unique ferocity. There are numerous Caution teases in Lovelight, and the shift from one to the other is almost imperceptible. After 9:00 into Lovelight much of the time Caution and Lovelight are happening simultaneously (shades of Chales Ives!). Jerry sounds the introductory Caution flourish pointedly at 10:06 but the band doesn't follow. He tries again much more emphatically at 10:32 and this time they round the corner. The tape cuts off with the beginning of the applause. This is an excellent job of early audience taping. The mics are quite close in and there's minimal audience noise. Unfortunately most circulating copies are high generation and many are somewhat hacked up. It is possible that to complete the set we are missing songs before the opening Space on the tape; otherwise this is perhaps tHE most hard core opening of any Dead set in the history of the band. It is possible that we are missing songs between Saint Stephen and Alligator, but the pause in the tape between these songs sounds like the pause-button pause between songs characteristic of early AUD tapes. It is improbable that there were more tunes following the concluding Feedback, unless there was an encore. Dick Latvala has stated that no soundboard of this show exists in the vault. Says Dick, "so stick with that audience, folks."

Now we know that Dick has been wrong before, but who knows if more of this performance is intact in the vault, or if the band members regard this music as highly as we do...